Rebellious or Robotic. An Observation of Punk Rock Culture.

FROM PJTV: “Zo thinks that not all, but many rockers or other anti-establishment types are promoting socialism, and ironically enough, the very establishment that they are supposedly rebelling against.

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  • Bill

    Yeah, having come up from the punk rock scene of the late 80’s and early 90’s I can say, without a doubt, there is a HUGE vein of socialist and leftist activism within the scene and preying upon punks who don’t know any better. A bigger part of the problem is that close to the punk scene is the “nazi” skinhead scene who are looked upon as “right wing” because of the European/Nationalist movement in England. Truth be told, most punks couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag and haven’t done a smidgen of reading and don’t know the difference between socialist and national socialist and fascist. Those who ARE smart and educated are the ones who fall for leftist indoctrination because it appears…at least on the surface…to be coming from the same “outcast” and “rebellious” place. Weirdly there are a goodly amount of punk rock guys who are right wing and NOT fascist or racist skinheads. There is also a good deal of libertarianism inherent in punk rock. However, most of the big names; Henry Rollins, Mike Watt, D. Boon, Green Day, Rage Against the Machine, Bad Religion, and on and on…they are all just promoting the democrat/leftist/progressive talking points and pretending as if they aren’t part of the same hack system they claim to be against.

    • Worth repeating.
      “they are all just promoting the democrat/leftist/progressive talking points and pretending as if they aren’t part of the same hack system they claim to be against.”

  • Well, you’re right, Zo, as usual. And also as usual there’s at least one notable exception. I’m fond enough of this one that I feel compelled to note it here. The late Johnny Ramone (John William Cummings) of the band, The Ramones, which is credited for starting Punk Rock – at least on the U.S. scene, if not altogether – in his comments upon the band’s induction to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2002, concluded his thanks to a short
    list of people with the statement, “God bless President Bush and God bless America.” Perhaps even more shocking was the decent round of applause that followed.

    Also, when asked about that in a later interview, Johnny said, “I think Ronald Reagan was the best President of my lifetime.” Also, according to Britain’s liberal rag—I mean, “newspaper” (clearing throat), ‘The Observer’, Johnny stated, “People drift towards liberalism at a young age, and I always hope they change when they see how the world really is.” I love that quotation, and I really do like the Ramones’ approach to pop music. They covered several oldies with unmistakeable respect for them.

  • Camden Coughran

    I too grew up during the Punk “revolution” in the late 70’s / early 80’s. I listened to Black Flag, Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedy’s, Circle Jerks, NOFX, etc… But when I was a child, I did childish things. Now that I have grown up, I have put those childish things behind me. I wonder if those uber-liberal/socialist punks have deleted the song, “Kill The Poor” by the Dead Kennedy’s, from their iPod’s yet…

  • chase

    I swear I’ve been thinking about the same thing! Growing up I always thought that bands like rage against the machine where anti establishment or anarchists. Come to find they carry socialist values. More like RAGE WITH THE MACHINE… =[

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